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he talks about all these tax deductions he's going to put forth. how is he going to close the loopholes to make this work? i'm a financial journalist, i want to know. i think american voters deserve to know. chris: the moderate already probably want to know. he's got to ask that question. >> two things. one is that i think it's really strange that they have telegraphed this punch so far in advance on the truth, on obama's veracity. i wouldn't be surprised if they don't do that because they've telegraphed it so far in advance. the thing "boston globe"s a -- obama has to watch, he really has grown to disrespect and dislike mitt romney and there's so many cheap shots that he could take that will not actually work to his advantage. he has to be -- restrain himself from taking the obvious jabs that might actually generate some sympathy for romney. chris: the debate also will challenge president obama to convince voters things could have been worse without blaming george b. bush as did he last time. >> one of the things i think we have to recognize is pu
he talks about all these tax deductions he's going to put forth. how is he going to close the loopholes to make this work? i'm a financial journalist, i want to know. i think american voters deserve to know. chris: the moderate already probably want to know. he's got to ask that question. >> two things. one is that i think it's really strange that they have telegraphed this punch so far in advance on the truth, on obama's veracity. i wouldn't be surprised if they don't do that because...
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of all of that money going to the super wealthy. >> so, are promises of massive tax hikes, taxing the jobs market? hi, everyone, i'm brenda buttner, this is bulls and bears, here they are, bulls and bears this week, gary b smith, tobin smith, jonas max ferris, along with julian epstein and larry, talk about future tax hikes, holding back a jobs recovery? >> that's right, that's right, brenda. well, you know, certainly for consumers that are work being that have 401(k) plans they may be feeling more confident these days, but their employers don't share the optimism. they're worried what's ahead and what's ahead are future tax increases, for small business owners still, these are people that own delis and dry cleaners and pave your driveways, not fat cats and million fairs and billionaires, they're average work people and concerned about the environment. and national independent business owners a record number of people. a bad time to start a business and a bad time to hire people. and that's not going to inspire jobs in this country, which is exactly what we need right now. >> okay, cl
of all of that money going to the super wealthy. >> so, are promises of massive tax hikes, taxing the jobs market? hi, everyone, i'm brenda buttner, this is bulls and bears, here they are, bulls and bears this week, gary b smith, tobin smith, jonas max ferris, along with julian epstein and larry, talk about future tax hikes, holding back a jobs recovery? >> that's right, that's right, brenda. well, you know, certainly for consumers that are work being that have 401(k) plans they may...
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at tonight's debate, a blizzard of percents. >> 93% of the businesses are not taxed at the 35% tax rate. >> reporter: all these perce percents -- >> it's mast. >> reporter: intended to make politics seem like facts that can't be argued with. >> like a sports analogy. it's odds, percentage chances. people have those percentages in their mind. they know their take-home pay. things that apply in their own life. >> reporter: but too many percents and you risk sounds like yogi berra, who said baseball is 90% physical, the other half is mental. a recent survey showed 42% of americans don't believe the polls. bottom line, percents don't always make sense. keep in mind, tonight, both candidates looked like they were addressing the 100%. but really, they're vying for a much smaller piece of the pie. really, they're trying to capture the undecided voters in the swing states who happen to be watching. that's not the 99%, not even the 47%. but that tiny fraction will end up deciding who won. >> if you want to focus on a percentage in this election that matters the most, it's 4% of the people that a
at tonight's debate, a blizzard of percents. >> 93% of the businesses are not taxed at the 35% tax rate. >> reporter: all these perce percents -- >> it's mast. >> reporter: intended to make politics seem like facts that can't be argued with. >> like a sports analogy. it's odds, percentage chances. people have those percentages in their mind. they know their take-home pay. things that apply in their own life. >> reporter: but too many percents and you risk...
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smart tax roll raises an amount of very interesting questions. i went through the returns as deeply studied. there were several lawsuits. you can see when the returns came in that night. and what happened as the night wore on a november 2nd, 2004, was a very, very close election. it was clear the election would come down to who won florida, who won ohio. these are the last two key battleground states. around 11:00, the networks finally called it for florida and that meant there was one crucial state as steaming, ohio. whoever won ohio would win the electoral college. the exit polls were in and they showed kerry winning ohio by 4.2%. suddenly i'm in millions of people started blogging on to the secretary of state's computer in ohio. traffic went through the roof. it went up 700%. that means the computers and cat country and chattanooga, tennessee had kicked in at 11:14 p.m. and suddenly in county after county to report it, there were these striking anomalies. the next 10 counties in a row. this raises a lot of serious questions about who actually
smart tax roll raises an amount of very interesting questions. i went through the returns as deeply studied. there were several lawsuits. you can see when the returns came in that night. and what happened as the night wore on a november 2nd, 2004, was a very, very close election. it was clear the election would come down to who won florida, who won ohio. these are the last two key battleground states. around 11:00, the networks finally called it for florida and that meant there was one crucial...
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in fact, when you do those sorts of tax cuts there are costs to those tax cuts. the big etan drivegest driver r deficit -- >> chris: if i may, sir. you are talking about half of the planet it would be like talking about obama's jobs plans and saying the entire are plan is to give more money to teachers. it is not obama's plan. similarly you are mischaracterizing the romney plan. saying you're right there is $5 trillion lowering the tax rates but he talks about cutting loopholes. but that is part of the plan. >> but he won't say, chris, which loopholes and which deductions. senator, i doubt seriously you would be if favor of doing away or cutting the home mortgage deduction for middle class americans. governor romney has not said what the plan is for paying for the $5 trillion in tax cuts just like he won't talk about what his tax returns have been or -- >> with all due reis spect, governor, first of all, governor romney made is clear in the debate and he was actually able to speak directly to the american people that he is not going to lower the burdening on up y
in fact, when you do those sorts of tax cuts there are costs to those tax cuts. the big etan drivegest driver r deficit -- >> chris: if i may, sir. you are talking about half of the planet it would be like talking about obama's jobs plans and saying the entire are plan is to give more money to teachers. it is not obama's plan. similarly you are mischaracterizing the romney plan. saying you're right there is $5 trillion lowering the tax rates but he talks about cutting loopholes. but that...
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the vast majority of the taxes collected in fact. we can talk about the tax rate, but it should be noted how close we are getting that rate in the country. that's my two cents have a wonderful evening and terrific weekend. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. the obama administration tonight is embroiled in a widening controversy with new questions asked of the president and white house of the murder of ambassador christopher stevens and three others. john kerry is rumored to be the president's choice to be hillary clinton's replacement. all 18 members of which, republicans and democrats, have signed a letter acceptability to the administration asking for a full accounting of the benghazi terrorist attacks and the events in yemen and egypt. the white house continues to give every appearance of stone walling, both the congress and the press. almost three weeks have passed since those attacks, and leaked from within the white house, an intelligence community suggests the obama administration has been involved in an outright cover up. ther
the vast majority of the taxes collected in fact. we can talk about the tax rate, but it should be noted how close we are getting that rate in the country. that's my two cents have a wonderful evening and terrific weekend. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. the obama administration tonight is embroiled in a widening controversy with new questions asked of the president and white house of the murder of ambassador christopher stevens and three others. john kerry is rumored to be the president's...
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lou: united nations on a mission to become the tax master. considering new global taxes to transfer trillions of dollars. among the tax proposed remember secretary of state clinton is enthusiastic. one% tax on all billionaires' and all financial transactions carbon emissions, airline tickets she suggests she is on board with some of that earlier this week. >> one issue i have been preaching about is collecting taxes in the equitable man o' war -- manner especially around the world from the e.u. the of every country are making money. there are rich people everywhere yet to they3 there are rich people everywhere yet to they do not contribute to the growth of their own country. lou: there are rich people everywhere. she is worth over 100 million. what is she thinking about? and just have to give them our national sovereignty? what an absurd concept. we are ready to contribute 22% of the when budget almost $8 billion to the united nations. our favorite angry liberal on a quest to offend more people. taking shots at almost everyone on the online t
lou: united nations on a mission to become the tax master. considering new global taxes to transfer trillions of dollars. among the tax proposed remember secretary of state clinton is enthusiastic. one% tax on all billionaires' and all financial transactions carbon emissions, airline tickets she suggests she is on board with some of that earlier this week. >> one issue i have been preaching about is collecting taxes in the equitable man o' war -- manner especially around the world from...
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who pays taxes ought to get tax relief. a of my plan is in place the wealthiest americans will pay a higher percentage of taxes than they do today and the poorest of americans, 6 million families, 7 million people won't pay any tax at all. >> notice the slight of hands. the wealthiest americans will pay a higher percentage of taxes than they do today. not a higher percentage of their income in taxes since that would be an outright lie. very common bit of conservative bit of misdirection used to hide the distributional tax cuts they're proposing. for instance, even in herman cain's explicitly progressive world of a 9/9/9 flat tax, you can imagine the wealthiest households would still pay a majority of total income tax revenue. that doesn't reflect how progressive or fair the taxation system is. it reflects just how unequal incomes are. bush did it again in the next debate too. >> my plan is that the wealthy people pay 62% of the taxes today after which they pay 64%. this is a fair plan. you know why? because the tax code is
who pays taxes ought to get tax relief. a of my plan is in place the wealthiest americans will pay a higher percentage of taxes than they do today and the poorest of americans, 6 million families, 7 million people won't pay any tax at all. >> notice the slight of hands. the wealthiest americans will pay a higher percentage of taxes than they do today. not a higher percentage of their income in taxes since that would be an outright lie. very common bit of conservative bit of misdirection...
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tax cut. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. my view is we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class but i'm not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high income people. we have 23 million people out of work. or stop look for work in this country. >> eliot: here's how the obama campaign responded to some of the claims. with an ad released this afternoon that relied on fact checkers. >> mitt romney has not laid out specifics for how he would pay for his tax cut. he says it's by reducing deductions and closing loopholes but he hasn't said which or how many. so the verdict here the simply incomplete. >> eliot: by the way that 23 million unemployed claim is also incorrect. off by only eight million people. romney also attacked the president on the obama care issue. >> romney: cut $716 million from medicare to pay for it. i want to put the money back in medicare for our seniors. it puts in place an unelected board that's going to tell peopl
tax cut. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. my view is we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class but i'm not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high income people. we have 23 million people out of work. or stop look for work in this country. >> eliot: here's how the obama campaign responded to some of the claims. with an ad released this afternoon that relied on fact checkers. >> mitt romney has not laid out specifics...
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they were called somebody else's tax cuts probably less likely to be raised. >> some other body's tax cuts. we'll examine how romney may have found his inner "w" ahead on now. [ male announcer ] when these come together, and these come together, one thing you can depend on is that these will come together. delicious and wholesome. some combinations were just meant to be. tomato soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. [ male announcer ] you start your day... love you, too. ...thinking about what's important to you -- your family... ...the mortgage... the kids' college tuition. [ cellphone ringing ] but life insurance? [ horn honking ] life is unpredictable. that's why at fidelity life we want you to think about term life insurance -- taking care of your family's future expenses if something happens to you. it's easy. we get to know you and your needs, then give you our best quote and our competitors'. you choose and save up to 70%. that could mean $250,000 of coverage for just $15 a month. we offer plans with no medical exam, and we've been in business for over 100 years.
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because they've got fancy attorneys that pay very little income tax let's suppose after all i'm with you and he would argue that the dependence on reliance is not a good thing we want to help people get off that he's not saying abandon those people and it's actually not saying that more people know he's not he doesn't want to abandon the thirty percent he's saying that seventy percent right now are for that they don't want the american private and i'd like to like i would have been less really really i think everybody wants to marry the american dream that anybody actually going to say i want to know i'm smart to get in i have to change that there right but here's the problem he's not explaining it there is this is sort of this is fair politics this is the old from that one movie i forget the title of it but this is the old thing that what you should be afraid of and who's to blame for it and what they're doing is they're saying you know these people aren't paying enough you're paying more this these aren't solutions any distraction at this point the election for romney any time he's
because they've got fancy attorneys that pay very little income tax let's suppose after all i'm with you and he would argue that the dependence on reliance is not a good thing we want to help people get off that he's not saying abandon those people and it's actually not saying that more people know he's not he doesn't want to abandon the thirty percent he's saying that seventy percent right now are for that they don't want the american private and i'd like to like i would have been less really...
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$5 trillion in tax cuts that he can't pay for? not if i've got anything to say about it. >>> plus, a tea party group accused of hovering and getting into faces is under fire. congressman cummings is demanding answers. he's here exclusively. >>> and live from new york, it's me, our friends at "snl" took on yours truly and the msnbc team. oh, yeah, i've got something to say about it. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. >> it's a mile below the earth so for him, speaking to colorado was like being flown two miles into the air and having to give a speech in outer space. an intense burning sensation i woke up with this horrible rash on my right side. like somebody had set it on fire. and the doctor said, cindie, you have shingles. he said, you had chickenpox when you were a little girl... i said, yes, i did. i don't think anybody ever thinks they're going to get shingles. but it happened to me. for more of the inside story, visit shinglesinfo.com mom? who's mom? i'm the giants mascot. eat up! new jammin jerk chicken soup has tas
$5 trillion in tax cuts that he can't pay for? not if i've got anything to say about it. >>> plus, a tea party group accused of hovering and getting into faces is under fire. congressman cummings is demanding answers. he's here exclusively. >>> and live from new york, it's me, our friends at "snl" took on yours truly and the msnbc team. oh, yeah, i've got something to say about it. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. >> it's a mile below the...
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as it relates to his tax plan, he has said very clearly that, a, he wants to cut certain tax loopholes, b, he wants to keep the bush era tax cut rates in place, and c, we need to make sure we can work with congress in a bipartisan fashion to get it done. i think that's very fair, i think it's a question that will be asked of him tomorrow by jim lehrer. >> it's also been deemed as mathematically impossible. thank you. as the candidates gear up, we are headed to denver. we will broadcast live from the university of denver, so be sure to tune in tomorrow, 4:00 p.m. eastern. >>> next, the 47 and bain. sure to take center stage tomorrow. stay with us. >> you haven't given me the math. >> but, well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too lock to go through all the math. >> great answer. why? it's a great answer. why is it a great answer? well, it would take me too long to explain, but trust me, it was a great answer. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet.
as it relates to his tax plan, he has said very clearly that, a, he wants to cut certain tax loopholes, b, he wants to keep the bush era tax cut rates in place, and c, we need to make sure we can work with congress in a bipartisan fashion to get it done. i think that's very fair, i think it's a question that will be asked of him tomorrow by jim lehrer. >> it's also been deemed as mathematically impossible. thank you. as the candidates gear up, we are headed to denver. we will broadcast...
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they were called somebody else's tax cuts probably less likely to be raised. >> some other body's tax cuts. we'll examine how romney may have found his inner "w" ahead on now. [ male announcer ] when these come together, and these come together, one thing you can depend on is that these will come together. delicious and wholesome. some combinations were just meant to be. tomato soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. you paid...wow. hmmm. let's see if walmart can help you find the same look for less. okay. we'll examine how romney may di rockstar! really? yeah. oh, wow! oh, black frame looks good on you. yeah? you can get a complete pair starting at just -- $38. really?! and did you know that our glasses come with a free 12-month replacement guarantee? i didn't know walmart had all this. the price is impressive, the quality is too! come to walmart and see for yourself. find quality eyewear brands starting at just $38. only at walmart. what are they fitting, aliens? >>> the mitt romney machine is running on a 17-day delay. two weeks ago a video featuring these comments too
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my my basic problem and we can get into the calculus of how many people don't pay taxes for whatever reason my basic problem for this is that if you look at people that are struggling in this country sometimes it's not an issue of unemployment sometimes it's an issue of over employment they might have to have five jobs to get by they might have back breaking work and that work is far more tough than the people sitting pretty in the top percentage of this country that is that can get out of taxes because they've got fancy attorneys that pay very little income tax let's suppose that are armed with and he would argue that the dependence on reliance is not a good thing we want to help people get off that he's not saying abandon those people and it's actually not anything about more people now he's not he doesn't want to abandon the thirty percent he's saying that seventy percent right now are for so they don't want the american pilot i'd like to like i want to tell us how you really think everybody wants to marry the american dream that anybody actually going to say i want to know i'm ha
my my basic problem and we can get into the calculus of how many people don't pay taxes for whatever reason my basic problem for this is that if you look at people that are struggling in this country sometimes it's not an issue of unemployment sometimes it's an issue of over employment they might have to have five jobs to get by they might have back breaking work and that work is far more tough than the people sitting pretty in the top percentage of this country that is that can get out of...
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tax rates by 20%. this could add up to $5 trillion, a big cut. but it doesn't take into account eliminating deductions and closing loopholes it would reduce tax cuts on the wealthy, but the problem is romney hasn't been specific about which reductions and how many? false on the claim. eliminating any tax cut would make it less than 5 trillion, even if it's which deductions and which loopholes. you mitt romney likes to talk about the middle class squeeze. wages down and all kinds of prices are up. >> do you realize over the last four years, every year you have seen the median income in america come down. income is down some 4,300 a family. the middle class squeeze has been unbearable. gasoline prices way up. food prices up, electricity prices up. health insurance costs up. >> the facts in this, easy to fin. median income down over the last four years, but only about 2,500 since president obama took office and prices for all those items are up, though, food and electricity barely, so the verdict is true,
tax rates by 20%. this could add up to $5 trillion, a big cut. but it doesn't take into account eliminating deductions and closing loopholes it would reduce tax cuts on the wealthy, but the problem is romney hasn't been specific about which reductions and how many? false on the claim. eliminating any tax cut would make it less than 5 trillion, even if it's which deductions and which loopholes. you mitt romney likes to talk about the middle class squeeze. wages down and all kinds of prices are...
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but he has said before that he wants to cut taxes for all americans the basis of his tax plan is that he wants to cut taxes for everyone. that, to me, was the most stunning one liner of the night, actually. >> yeah, i think so. but i also think, dana, it also stunning that you would stand up there and act like americans can't do math. i mean, you can't have a plan and then when the plan equals $5 trillion, you can't say, that's not what i'm saying. i mean, it is absolutely insulting to the american people. if you believe in a plan, if you believe if your plan is workable and doable and better than the president's, say, that argue it, and let the voters vote. but don't turn around and act like we're crazy because we heard what you've been saying for the last 18 months. >> right. obama is now in a position to nail jello to the wall. you said that romney was lying on wednesday night. now, that's possible or it's possible he's now telling the truth and the others were lies. you can't have a tax cut of that size and not add to the deficit because there are not enough loopholes to close to
but he has said before that he wants to cut taxes for all americans the basis of his tax plan is that he wants to cut taxes for everyone. that, to me, was the most stunning one liner of the night, actually. >> yeah, i think so. but i also think, dana, it also stunning that you would stand up there and act like americans can't do math. i mean, you can't have a plan and then when the plan equals $5 trillion, you can't say, that's not what i'm saying. i mean, it is absolutely insulting to...
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the governor -- former governor romney is proposing a 20% cut to income taxes, including income taxes for the wealthiest of americans. and, i believe a 30% cut for corporate income taxes, including big all, socking all of us at the pump, right now and any economist may debate whether it adds up to $4.9 trillion or $5 trillion and the fact of the matter. >> clayton: in this debate we saw big bird meet the big lie. those tax cuts, there are costs to those tax cuts, the biggest driver to our deficit... >> chris: if i may, sir, you are talking about half the planet like talking about obama's jobs plan, the entire plan is to give more money to teachers and, that is not obama's plans and similarly you are mischaracterizing the romney plan, saying, it is -- you are right, $5 trillion by lowering the tax rate but he talks about cutting loopholes... >> oh, chris, which loopholes and which deductions? senator, i doubt seriously you would be in favor of doing away or cutting the home mortgage deduction, for middle class americans. i mean, governor romney has not said what the secret plan is for
the governor -- former governor romney is proposing a 20% cut to income taxes, including income taxes for the wealthiest of americans. and, i believe a 30% cut for corporate income taxes, including big all, socking all of us at the pump, right now and any economist may debate whether it adds up to $4.9 trillion or $5 trillion and the fact of the matter. >> clayton: in this debate we saw big bird meet the big lie. those tax cuts, there are costs to those tax cuts, the biggest driver to our...
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and obviously a little more personals on taxes and promise the. >> yeah. you have been a team now for 25 years. >> right. >> the most successful team, i would say, since huntly brinkley whom you don't remember. i do. lg-running team. very successful. what's next for you as journalists? >> i think that making that transition into english language and being able to reach all audiences and what i mean is not only hispanics that speak english but all audiences, to understand who we are. i think to elevate the position of latinos in this country and the role of latinos in this society is something that we sort of take on as a mission. >> to stay relevant its very challenging right w to stay relevant when you have the internet, when you have social media. it's very difficult that your voice stays relevant and nothing gets lost among the noise. i think that's one of the most important things. and finally it has to do with trust. after 25 or 30 years if we say something and people trust what we say, that's the best a zblard maria and george, this has been a plsure
and obviously a little more personals on taxes and promise the. >> yeah. you have been a team now for 25 years. >> right. >> the most successful team, i would say, since huntly brinkley whom you don't remember. i do. lg-running team. very successful. what's next for you as journalists? >> i think that making that transition into english language and being able to reach all audiences and what i mean is not only hispanics that speak english but all audiences, to understand...
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, $901,000 tax credit on foreign investments. >> us us. >> that he took. i want to know, there's four different countries, what was the income from that property and where is that declared? >> exactly right. i mean, i think you're correct you know, mitt romney's coming out now and his new message i'm not cutting taxes for the wealthy at all. you can't sign on to paul ryan's budget and say you don't want to cut taxes for the wealthy. >> exactly. >> that's a great question. do you think the president has got on edge here or he just needs to coast and not. >> up or do you think it's still an uphill battle for him? >> i'm sure it's going to be uphill because of the famous dumb white men. >> as a dumb white man i take offense to that. >> other than yourself, of course. >> thank you, thank you. >> apparently that's the only down poll for him. >> let's be fair, there's plenty of dumb white women out there as well. her man contain has changed all the rules, as well. i think you're right. let me ask you your opinion here. i think governor romney is a much better de
, $901,000 tax credit on foreign investments. >> us us. >> that he took. i want to know, there's four different countries, what was the income from that property and where is that declared? >> exactly right. i mean, i think you're correct you know, mitt romney's coming out now and his new message i'm not cutting taxes for the wealthy at all. you can't sign on to paul ryan's budget and say you don't want to cut taxes for the wealthy. >> exactly. >> that's a great...
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the bush era tax use expire. health reform taxes kick in opinion 88% americans would pay more in taxes. >> how likely do we think the tax increases will kick in. >> cnn money asked 17 economists what do you think whether or not congress can get a deal done in time and the answer was unanimous, all 17 said, you know what? you're not going to go off the fiscal cliff. for them it's just a guess. those economists are putting a lot of faith in congress and the reality is don't expect anything to happen until after the election on november 6th. it's going to come down the wire. the big worry is that we could go into a recession if congress doesn't get their act together in time. >> even if we don't fall off a fiscal cliff, there's a chance that at least some of the tax increases will go into effect. >> exactly. some taxes could still go up even if congress avoid a full fiscal cliff. a good example is the payroll tax credit. expect that to expire no matter what. the reality is there's no champion behind it. the white ho
the bush era tax use expire. health reform taxes kick in opinion 88% americans would pay more in taxes. >> how likely do we think the tax increases will kick in. >> cnn money asked 17 economists what do you think whether or not congress can get a deal done in time and the answer was unanimous, all 17 said, you know what? you're not going to go off the fiscal cliff. for them it's just a guess. those economists are putting a lot of faith in congress and the reality is don't expect...
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he locked himself into some bad positions that he took during the republican primary, tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas, refusing to ask the wealthiest for a dime to reduce the deficit and those give us big openings to talk about on the campaign trail in key states in the weeks ahead. >> vice president biden, meantime, said his boss did a good job during a bright line between his policies and mitt romney's. >> i think the president did a wonderful job in making it clear just how stark that choice is. >> keeping them honest, that is precisely where the pundits, even those who support president obama, say he dropped the ball and when we asked our viewers whether mr. obama did better or worse than expected, 61%, nearly two in three, said he did worse. as for why the president himself supplied an answer today. twice today out on the stump using nearly identical wording each time. listen. >> when i got out on the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. but i know it couldn't have been mitt romney. because the real mitt romney's been running aro
he locked himself into some bad positions that he took during the republican primary, tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas, refusing to ask the wealthiest for a dime to reduce the deficit and those give us big openings to talk about on the campaign trail in key states in the weeks ahead. >> vice president biden, meantime, said his boss did a good job during a bright line between his policies and mitt romney's. >> i think the president did a wonderful job in making it...
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we'll get to the deductions but the cut in tax rates. >> the cut in tax rates is lower all americans tax rates by 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue lowering. you can -- >> i have to -- you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> yesterday mitt romney finally gave in, sort of. he didn't detail the deductions he intends to eliminate, but at least offered a few suggestions. >> you could say everybody is going to get up to a $17,000 deduction and use your charitable deduction or your home mortgage deduction or others, health care deduction and fill that bucket, the $17,000 bucket that way and higher income people might have a lower number or do it by the same method that bowles-simpson did it, limiting certain deductions, that's the sort of thing you do with congress. >> so there you go. that's the sort of thing he's talking about. romney's campaign emphasized after the interview those ideas are actually not part of his plan writing -- mark halperin, as you know, i'm an easily confused person
we'll get to the deductions but the cut in tax rates. >> the cut in tax rates is lower all americans tax rates by 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue lowering. you can -- >> i have to -- you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> yesterday mitt romney finally gave in, sort of. he didn't detail the deductions he intends to eliminate, but at least offered a few...
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these businesses grow. >> mitt romney's message is to get rid of the wind production tax credit. well, that's big here because we've got t.p.i. and trinity both producing wind turbines and wind towers, and that's a critical factor for us to keep those plants moving past 2013. >> reporter: o. kay henderson says these single issue voters add up quickly in such a small state. >> if iowa does again come down to a few thousand votes, these sort of narrow cast issues can have a huge effect. and so that is why you see the obama campaign pushing this so hard, because the wind energy industry has about 7,000 or 8,000 workers in iowa. >> reporter: then there is the fight in plain sight-- the >> romney would jeopardize thousands of jobs and knock the wind out of iowa's economy. >> a prairie fire of debt is sweeping across the nation. >> reporter: the negative ads are on >> reporter: the negative ads on almost every channel, every night. >> i mean, it's almost-- the ads border on being vulgar. >> reporter: steve bump has run a fireplace business in the des moines suburbs for 38 years, he kno
these businesses grow. >> mitt romney's message is to get rid of the wind production tax credit. well, that's big here because we've got t.p.i. and trinity both producing wind turbines and wind towers, and that's a critical factor for us to keep those plants moving past 2013. >> reporter: o. kay henderson says these single issue voters add up quickly in such a small state. >> if iowa does again come down to a few thousand votes, these sort of narrow cast issues can have a huge...
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all tax increases to pay for more spending undermine tax reform. and therefore, they're not going to allow it. so, this is a-- this is a nonsorry, 'cause it will never pass the senate and never ever ever pass the house and as much as obama might like to see it happen now, no. stuart: okay. advice for mitt romney in tomorrow night's debate? >> look, obama has changed his previous promise, which was he wouldn't raise taxes on anyone who earned less than $250,000. now, he broke it about eight times during his presidency, but the new promise is, he won't raise anyone's income taxes who earns less than 250,000 next year. so, obama himself in his campaign speeches says, if i get reelected president, 2014, katie bar the door, there is no protection for anybody. so the tax code-- >> you're saying attack on the tax issue, that's what you say mitt romney can, must and should do. >> and spending and just the overall spend, tax, policy of this administration which would only get worse in a second term. stuart: all right. governor norquist, always a pleasure, t
all tax increases to pay for more spending undermine tax reform. and therefore, they're not going to allow it. so, this is a-- this is a nonsorry, 'cause it will never pass the senate and never ever ever pass the house and as much as obama might like to see it happen now, no. stuart: okay. advice for mitt romney in tomorrow night's debate? >> look, obama has changed his previous promise, which was he wouldn't raise taxes on anyone who earned less than $250,000. now, he broke it about...
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he said in fact that they do want to race taxes a trillion dollars. i want to create good jobs in america. reporter: now, the president is hammering mitt romney today on the 5 trillion-dollar tax increase. that was the same accusation that governor romney beat back several times in denver. last night, president obama's deputy campaign director, stephanie cutter, acknowledged that that tax cut would be nowhere near $5 trillion. she did go on to say that all of the loopholes that the governor would use to try to make that revenue neutral would not bring up the total amount, but it is important to note that she did say that tax and cuts would be hard. megyn: there is some troubling news from the unemployment department on jobs. applications rose to 360,000. that is up from last week. a second report shows planned layoff 4.9% in september. yesterday the commerce department said factory orders dropped 5.2% in august. still, just a short time ago, president obama said today's report shows that the economy is headed in the right direction. >> after losing ab
he said in fact that they do want to race taxes a trillion dollars. i want to create good jobs in america. reporter: now, the president is hammering mitt romney today on the 5 trillion-dollar tax increase. that was the same accusation that governor romney beat back several times in denver. last night, president obama's deputy campaign director, stephanie cutter, acknowledged that that tax cut would be nowhere near $5 trillion. she did go on to say that all of the loopholes that the governor...
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president tried to get him on that on the $5 trillion tax cut thing. i'm not sure he effectively pinned him down on that though the obama campaign was spinning that they did. >> i think they made a mistake on that issue, the obama people did, by going with the $5 trillion. because that, you know, policy wonks can debate whether it amounts to $5 trillion or not. what they can't debate, it's a 20% tax reduction for the wealthiest americans. that is a plain irrefutable fact and if they used that, it would, first of all, explain more what this is, which is a tax cut for the wealthy which was one of several points the president wasn't able to actually convey in a clear way. and would also be, you know, be on dispute factually. >> and when a -- sorry, go ahead. >> no. >> when paul ryan spoke at the republican convention, the first reaction was, wow, young fresh guy, so handsome. you know, there's like -- an immediate positive response. later that night, that same evening in the same news cycle, the sort of second breath response was, wow, there are a lot of
president tried to get him on that on the $5 trillion tax cut thing. i'm not sure he effectively pinned him down on that though the obama campaign was spinning that they did. >> i think they made a mistake on that issue, the obama people did, by going with the $5 trillion. because that, you know, policy wonks can debate whether it amounts to $5 trillion or not. what they can't debate, it's a 20% tax reduction for the wealthiest americans. that is a plain irrefutable fact and if they used...